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Blocking by Lipizzaner-Kgirl Blocking by Lipizzaner-Kgirl

Available for free use, just don't claim it as your own, obviously. :)

"Blocking: the #1 way to tell that someone has lost the debate." Let's be honest: if you're having a reasonable debate (I'm not talking about a fight) and the other person blocks you, they probably did it so they could get the last word but knew you'd be able to easily refute it, right? That's certainly the way it goes for me, at least. I laugh when people block me because it's so obvious why they did it. 

I don't harass, stalk, or maliciously follow anyone on the internet. If someone wants to stop debating with me, all they have to do is stop and I'll leave them alone. I have never and never will bully or harass someone on their profile page or their other deviations over an argument or debate that we had on, say, a stamp or journal of theirs. I'm a safe person to debate with and most people sense that straight away, so when I'm debating and someone up and blocks me, it's pretty obvious that they had no good arguments left and they just wanted the last word.

I just think it's funny and way too predictable!



 


Blocking is not always a sign of defeat:


1) Please note that blocking comments on a deviation is different. Most people do that not because they are afraid that they don't have a valid argument but because they're afraid people will post bullying, threatening, or otherwise harsh comments on their deviation.

2) People also do well to block if a debate has turned into a pointless (like an is-to-is-not) fight or if they feel that the person on the other end is threatening them or others. I have blocked before when someone has turned a debate into an immature fight, or when I feel that my personal safety could be threatened by that person.

3) Blocking is also understandable if someone is spewing downright hatred towards you or others. For example, I once blocked someone because they openly admitted to hating a large demographic of people. I don't want to be associated with angry, hateful people. However, someone would have to do something extremely hateful for me to block them on accounts of their opinions/emotions. I’m fine with opinions, just not hatred.

 

Feeling unsafe or having had enough with immaturity/hatred and wanting the last word are two different things.

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:iconkumanoyume:
kumanoyume Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was blocked by ExaltGod because I accused her of circular reasoning, something she does in pretty much all her stamps. 
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Student General Artist
People falsely accuse people of logical fallacies all the time, and it does got old when someone says "you did this" just because they don't like what you said. For example, someone once told me that it was the ad hominem fallcy to say that someone with a current sexual addiction probably shouldn't go around saying that sexual addiction doesn't exist.

Of course, I have not seen the argument, so I have no idea what actually happened or what she said, so I can't say either way if she was right or wrong Shrug .
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LordElthibar Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014
With respect, I actually disagree because it could be a way of saying that one just doesn't want to continue the conversation even after one is continuing. It's a way of saying, "I don't want to talk anymore, but you just don't get it."
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Student General Artist
You could always just not reply to the person.
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:iconlordelthibar:
LordElthibar Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
What if we don't tolerate back talking?
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:iconlipizzaner-kgirl:
Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Student General Artist
A debate is not back-talking. One person provides his evidence/logic, the other person provides his.

If you haven't said anything to them and they continue to pester you, it's not back talking, it's harassment, and I have no issue with blocking someone like that.
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:iconlordelthibar:
LordElthibar Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
I intemperate any reply after I have made them aware that I have no interest in the conversation anymore as harassment. Why is it there for us anyway?
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:iconlipizzaner-kgirl:
Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2014  Student General Artist
Well, if you've told them you don't want to continue the conversation and you have stopped defending your point of view, then it would be harassment for them to continue messaging you. I have no problem with blocking someone like that. I've done it before myself.
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LordElthibar Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2014
Now you are just insulting me. I defended my point of view up until the other person started being irrational once and when the other man started being irrational, I blocked him. Why can't you just agree to disagree and leave it at that?
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Edited Dec 15, 2014  Student General Artist
Wait, what? How am I insulting you? I agreed with you. I have no problem with blocking rude or irrational people.
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kumanoyume Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not really. When you block someone, you're stopping them from ever speaking to you again. If you want to stop talking to someone, then you should do just that - stop replying to them. If you don't want to continue a conversation, then don't continue it. Simple as that. 

However, if someone keeps harassing you and demanding that you reply to them, then I think blocking them would be a reasonable move. 
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LordElthibar Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2014
One could repeal the block.
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ZuuZombie Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
the last sentence is so important and i think the dipshit that linked me to this doesn't know it
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BlueWolf007 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
So show them that specific sentence, and then laugh at their incapacity to read- likely the reason you don't want to talk with them in the first place. XD
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Student General Artist
Probably. There are people who block when they don't want to hear what someone else has to say (and therefore have probably lost the argument), and then there are people who block when they're just plain sick of the stupidity that the other person is exhibiting.

For example, I recently blocked an anti-Christian when they asked me "do you think a dictator should be able to kill for any reason," I answered "NO," and they wrote back "I'm glad to know that you think it's right for a dictator to kill for any reason." Yeah, with blatant stupidity and rudeness like that, I blocked them.
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ZuuZombie Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly omfg.... In this context it was an argument about Ferguson; I supplied literally every shred of evidence as to why brown was urdered and was not a thug/thief/etc etc and they either replied a) in a snarky or sarcastic manner, not supporting the argument at all or b) "i don't believe it."
like? good for you?? I'm not going to to walk you through why you're wrong if I already handed you all you needed to know. Do it yourself. 

???????????? what the shit
I'm not even religious and I don't even understand what that's supposed to mean? lmao 
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Student General Artist
In all honesty, the police officer in Ferguson was responding to a 911 call from a convenience store that described someone who looked like Brown (and coincides with security tape footage) robbing the store. While it may or may not have been Brown, the toy gun that Brown had didn't have its orange tip, therefore making it look exactly like a real gun. The officer didn't randomly shoot Brown: he was responding to a 911 call where Brown was suspect, and then he saw Brown with what looked for all the world like a real gun. While I don't like your opponent's debate tactics, I do have to take their side in the argument. All in all, I think police officers should be better trained in dealing with kids because they may have toy guns, but in this particular situation, I can't say the police officer is a murderer. But anyway. What's done is done.

I know, right? I don't know if that person was just plain stupid or what! They literally took what I said and completely changed it. They didn't twist my words, they  said that I had said something completely different. I have no idea what they were trying to accomplish. I blocked them when they did that, and ain't nobody gonna convince me that I blocked them because I had lost the debate.
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ZuuZombie Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
mmmmmm I heavily disagree but I'm all tuckered out with arguing about it @ - @

Lmao good; they deserved it 
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Student General Artist
Well, those are the facts. We don't know if Brown was the thief, but it is extremely probable, and either way, because his toy gun didn't have its orange tip, there was no way for Wilson to know that Brown wasn't the thief and about to shoot innocent people. I can't call Wilson a murderer for trying to protect people. Shrug 


Lol, there are seriously people that dumb out there, so don't feel sorry if you have to block one!
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ZuuZombie Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thievery doesn't necessitate being shot 6 times :/

yeaaahh; it's funnier when they complain about it too lmfao
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Student General Artist
No, but threatening people with a gun does, and that's for all the world what it looked like he was doing. The thievery simply alerted Wilson to the problem.
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LightstrikeTheBrave Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have won SO many arguments then...
(and most of them were against creationists, too)
and I'm 14.
What does that tell you? 
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Student General Artist
It would depend on why they blocked you. If they blocked you because they had no arguments, that's one thing, but if they blocked you because you teased, bullied threatened, called them stupid, etc., that's another thing. I have yet to come across a creationist vs. evolutionist debate where the evolutionist was polite and respectful. Every single one I have seen bullied and belittled the creationist. Just saying.
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LightstrikeTheBrave Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've tried to be very understanding and caring, and not bullying at all. I think I was respectful, as were the creationist. 
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Student General Artist
Well, I wouldn't be able to make a determination unless I saw the actual argument.
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LightstrikeTheBrave Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Okay :)
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:iconlipizzaner-kgirl:
Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Student General Artist
Yep. :)
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
If that's the case I won so many fucking arguments it's not even funny. I could start writing a book with all the names of the people who blocked me. ~ C
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2014  Student General Artist
Pretty much, lol!

I do block people sometimes, but only if I can tell the argument will go nowhere, it's turned into a pointless fight, the other part is acting threatening, dangerous, and/or extremely immature, or if they're debating with me simply to spew anger and hatred.
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I never block, even if it's going nowhere. The only person I blocked was because he hunted for every comment I made and told me to suck cock 23 times. ~ C
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2014  Student General Artist
Eh, okay. I don't have time for stupid people, and if someone is ranting at me or is no longer using logic and I can tell that the debate will go nowhere, I just say, "enough."
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Canta-Per-Me Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Heheh, well sometimes people are just so stupid I don't want to waste anymore time arguing with them, but know if they post something else, I will feel the need to respond anyway and waste my time. So I block them to end it and carry on with my life!
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014  Student General Artist
Yes, sometimes it's best to end an argument. You just have to be careful why you're ending it. You know what I mean?
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Canta-Per-Me Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Yeah. Generally if they have to resort to "Well you're wrong because you said something that might have insulted me and therefore your argument is invalid" (which actually did happen to me before... seriously...) I figure I've won the argument.... especially when I supported my side of the argument with reputable sources (NPR, BBC, and Discovery) and her 'defense' was a link to a dictionary.com definition.
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Student General Artist
Yep. On my "Christianity Doesn't Promote Murder or Rape" stamp, someone commented (no joke) that I was wrong because there is no skyfairy with a magic wand. I was just like "alrighty then."

"Skyfairies"? What the heck? LOL
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Canta-Per-Me Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
*notices a lot of your stamps are pro-life*

Heheh, it was actually on that argument. Someone was talking about how fetuses are by definition parasites, and I was like.... Dude. Take Biology 100. Take high school biology. Take ANY biology.

I didn't even take a side in the argument, persay, I just pointed out that actually, they don't fit ANY of the requirements for being parasites. Like. At all. And I might have vaguely implied, after a few exchanges, that I thought her mental processing systems might be, well, sub-par if she couldn't understand that I completely destroyed her argument with trustworthy sources. Tbh, I'm surprised the person was smart enough to realise I was insulting her.
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Student General Artist
In all honesty, fetuses do fit some of the elements of a parasite (an organism that lives off of another organism at that organism's expense), but you're right, they missed a fundamental point of almost every biology book: a parasite must be a different species. By the flat-out definition of parasite, fetuses do qualify, but they don't qualify when parasitic tendencies are taken into account and they don't qualify according to biology books. And besides, it makes not difference on whether or not abortion is moral. By the flat-out definition, every human is a parasite until they're completely out of the house, completely independent, and not on governmental aid. Wait, so that means that over a third of the U.S. population consists of parasites that are legal to kill?
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Canta-Per-Me Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Actually, they don't because it isn't, scientifically speaking, at the mother's expense. The mother's body is built for this! To be at their expense, it would have to be something that the body is not built to handle. People forget to factor that bit in >_>

And yeah I did point out to her that that means the elderly and handicapped are just as much 'parasites' as fetuses. Which is to say, fit her false definition, but are not parasites...
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2014  Student General Artist
The mother's body is built for it, yes, but nonetheless the baby is living at the mother's expense. It needs sustenance, and the mother must provide it. But you're right: it's a completely natural and very normal process, and, unlike an actual parasitic infection, pregnancy has a natural and regular termination (birth.)
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ladypurpledreamer Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Professional Writer
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BlueGreninjastorm Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014
Amen.
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014
What about insulting?
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student General Artist
If the person insults you they're not debating anymore and there's no problem with blocking them. However, if you block everyone who insults you, you're going to end up blocking a ton of people. People sometimes have bad days or we might even misunderstand them. Life happens. Try to be forgiving, but if someone is blatantly insulting you, blocking them is your own business.
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justinjamal Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
Yes :)
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CelticKawaii Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I'd revel in the times where someone ended a discussion with "Nuh-uh, you're wrong!" and blocked me, but then, I've done that a couple of times early on too. I'm not too proud of it either.
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014  Student General Artist
Most people generally post a message before they block, but that doesn't mean you did it for the last word. If you have a legit argument and you make it after a lengthy discussion, there's no shame. A lot of lengthy discussions get nasty near the end. One person I recently blocked openly admitted that they hate Christians and many other religious groups. At that point the debate has lost objectivity, and on top of that, I blocked him because I don't want to be associated with angry, hateful people.

However, if you're blocking because you're afraid the person knows better than you, that's a different story entirely!
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SilverBeastLaguz Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I did this like two times in different arguments and I've been regretting them to this day. I got them unblocked now, but I don't feel like speaking to them again ever or going for round 2 on the arguments, because I think they might report me if I try to talk to them and the mods get me suspended.
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Lipizzaner-Kgirl Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Student General Artist
It's probably best if you let them be. Unblocking them was probably a good idea, but I'd let them contact you, if you're asking me.
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FeatherlynneXWarrior Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I can't even tell you how many times this has happened to me. It's irritating, but at the same time it essentially means I won the debate.
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JaqErant92 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Not entirely true. I only block people who are either stalking or harassing me.
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